Cracking Down on Mascots
Why don’t we focus on improving education and leave the decisions about mascots to the local residents, mmmmkay?
A proposal designed to crack down on race-based school mascots and logos in Wisconsin is up for a vote before the state Assembly on Tuesday.
The bill calls for the state Department of Public Instruction to investigate complaints about race-based names, nicknames, logos or mascots. School boards would have a chance to argue the logos or mascots don’t discriminate, harass or stereotype. The state superintendent could fine schools if they don’t make changes.
Does that mean schools with nicknames such as Orangemen, Dutchmen, and Irish will have to change?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 21, 2010 at 2231 hrs
cuz “local residents” can be insensitive dicks
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 21, 2010 at 2235 hrs
cuz “local residents” can be insensitive dicks
So, you want to control those you disagree with.
Sure would like to have you provide specifics on your dumbassed statement without resorting to past decades, or centuries, for you generalizations.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 21, 2010 at 2327 hrs
Dumbassed statement? Seems you just prefer to badger those you don’t agree with.
The point, if I must spell it out, is that small groups of like-minded people might end up selecting names/mascots that—while reflective of their world-view—are insensitive/insulting to more diverse populations.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 21, 2010 at 2334 hrs
BS George.
It is simply more encroachment of the ever-growing nanny-state trying to regulate all of us into political correctness.
Looking at the deficits that WI has… I’m thinking they have more pressing issues.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 21, 2010 at 2348 hrs
yes, you’ll look at any attempt for reasonable fairness and equality in treatment and representation of others as “encroachment” of a “nanny-state”.
i mean, what’s really wrong with white only water fountains, anyway? if that’s what the locals want, why not let them have it?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0031 hrs
If they really want to solve the problem, and save a ton of money in the process, they will just abolish sports altogether.
Posted by Josh Schroeder on February 22, 2010 at 0033 hrs
The reasons for a PT legislatre just keep piling up.
Shouldn’t they be working on fixing our budget shortfall rather than worrying about mascots for crying out loud!
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0036 hrs
So a small group of like-minded people end up selecting names/mascots that—while reflective of their world-view—are insensitive/insulting to more diverse populations but represent their small group. And to you, this is wrong?
Like I said;
So, you want to control those you disagree with.
Sorry, I believe small groups of people should be free to reflect their own world view. If that offends “more diverse” people, then they should really try to understand what the hell diverse really means.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0043 hrs
So, TerryN, you truly believe that a local community should be allowed to call a sports team “The Nigger Haters” or, for that matter, pass ordinances making it illegal for a Jew to live there, or for a Protestant to marry a Catholic?
You see no need for any broader rights to exist outside the unique world view of a limited set of people?
Now I’m starting to understand the zeitgeist here (if its ok for me to use German)
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0048 hrs
George - Yes, I believe in freedom. Organize a local community in today’s world and allow them to call their teams by your non real world examples. Ain’t going to happen in the today’s world.
But keep referencing the past to justify political correctness. You may even believe you’re being “progressive”.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0106 hrs
True story; When I went to Oconomowoc H.S., where the mascott is the racoon and we were called Cooney. When I ran track and cross country, we were given free gym bags from a local business. On the bag, it said: “Home of the Coons”. Well, went to a meet in Washington Park in Milwaukee and our bags didn’t go over too well.
So, do you outlaw animal names like racoons because of the abrevation could be racist?Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0217 hrs
Yes, George. You insult Terry when you suggest he should pay attention to the lessons of history. He’s a bully who believes that his wants and wishes must be granted and to hell with the hindmost.
This is the Tea Party legacy; a government by the most selfish and ignorant. The world has seen these movements before and they’ll see them again. It’s just hard to keep them and theirs away from the switches of power.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0448 hrs
This could also be applied to the ridiculous brouhaha over the Marquette Warriors.
Seriously, how is “Warriors” offensive? And how many different groups in history could, or have been called “Warriors”?
No, this is purely the expansion of the perpetually offended victim class.
Noplace in the Constitution does it say we have the right to not be offended. I’m offended by the Jesus in Feces “art”. I’m offended that schools are putting in foot baths and allowing prayer rooms for Muslims but howl in protest when a Boy Scout group wants to use a room for a meeting. There are more. But as the Progressives have told us ad nauseum - art is freedom of speech so we will just have to put up with being offended. Separation of Church and State and all.. Well that’s just a double standard with Islam - nevermind.
LIfe ain’t fair, get a helmet.
But seeing that George and the other apologists seem to think this should be a priority of the Legislature shows more about their own skewed priorities as well.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0714 hrs
Awww, poor little grumps.
The Tea party wants people to be free. You jackasses don’t. That’s enough of a contrast for me to be able to decide which side is good, and which is bad. Guess what, you’re bad.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0728 hrs
I’m of Czech and German descent. I would welcome a team called somethingt like the “Fightin’ Bohunks” or “Teutonic Tide”. Sadly, that will never happen. Remember a while back when some sports team decided to call itself “The Fightin’ Whites”? Instead of sending an insult, folks from all over the country were trying to buy jerseys from the team. Seems like out of all the sports team names there are miserably few that honor Caucasians. People were thrilled that finally one was doing that, however sarcasticly.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0808 hrs
Oh, stop all the bickering. There can only be so many (Kingsford, Mi) Flivvers (the Ford Model T), (Houghton, Mi) Gremlins, or (Watersmeet, MI) Nimrods (an expert hunter). Let those in the immediate area decide what is offensive, and if a complaint doesn’t come from the community, or from the school’s regular opponents, then yes, I am afraid it would be one set of peoples rights against that of another, and in this case, I would have to stand with the local residents rather than those that are feeling slighted of denigrated.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0831 hrs
Oh and Dan… As offensive as it is being a “Coon”... Try being a “Golden Beaver”
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0838 hrs
Elovrich finally hits on the evasive solution. This is clearly a move on the part of government to, once again, remove local control. Simple as that. Let the community decide. If a mascot name is really causing an issue, the locals will deal with it.
Have people forgotten that mascot names are given as an honor?
Posted by GAMazy on February 22, 2010 at 0844 hrs
Neo -
Posted by GAMazy on February 22, 2010 at 0845 hrs
Beaver Dam
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0848 hrs
Don’t you people know that schools don’t need state government to control anything for them? They have that part under control. This is a must read and it’s not even the onion
—-couldn’t post the link to the school spying on kids using laptops. Google it. amazing that people try to defend itPosted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 0924 hrs
So in grumps world standing up for freedom is bullying. Well, I’m going to bully the sh$t out of statists that want to restrict my freedom so they can have more control.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 1034 hrs
Wow, liberal are really having to dig through the garbage these days to find things to be outraged at. Since they are not allowed by ideology to voice complaint at the Democrat Party, they must now struggle to find the most weaselly things to substitute for the red meat they lack.
@George: The sampling of names that you have chosen forces me to call you an idiot. No one is naming sports teams in such a fashion. The names are chosen as a sign of strength, not disrespect. They pick “Warriors” and “Redskins” because they define a strength and will to fight that people seek to emulate. The names are meant as an honor, and the feigned outrage of the perpetually outrage chattering classes is just ideological hyperbole.
Perhaps the liberal folks just don’t understand the spirit to fight and win that is exhibited by sports. Liberals are the ones who decided to remove scoring to avoid hurt feeling, after all. Maybe it’s just the fear of competition and failure that drives liberals to attack these team names. Liberals do seem to love the level playing field of the least common denominator. Maybe that’s it. Perhaps the ones who are outraged are simply channeling the hurt feelings of having been picked last for kick ball teams, and being the first one out in dodge ball.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 1044 hrs
I think West Bend should change their name to the Crackers.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 1049 hrs
I’m an “apologist”? For what?
And really, Terry, Freedom uber alles? Clearly never took an ethics class or just slept through it.
You all are fucking hilarious/sad.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 1107 hrs
You all are fucking hilarious/sad.
Ok, you’re officially a troll.Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 1236 hrs
If you’re going to be offensive John, why not call them the Honkies?
If you hadn’t noticed, all of the names of these teams highlight revered aspects such as bravery, valor, pride, and the ability to preserver.I swear, the more you post the more absurd you become.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 1543 hrs
Hello people its a quite interesting post I think. At First we should see what the bill Department of Public Instruction to investigate complaints is going to do? And yes we should obviously focus on the education level.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 1813 hrs
Combine East & West and call them the West Bend Book Burners. Or The Screamin’ Ginny’s! Give Ginny the honor she deserves for protecting us all from fictional homosexuals.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 1814 hrs
It’s also time to get rid of Spartans. The Greeks have suffered long enough. Vikings and highlanders also have to go. Maybe Monroe, Wisconsin should have their high school drop “Cheesemakers”? This is very insensitive to a noble trade.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 1926 hrs
Yes, combine East and West and call them the Fight’n Teabaggers.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 1942 hrs
What was the mascot when WB only had one high school? Just wondering.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 1959 hrs
Wendy - pretty sure it was the Badgers.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 2134 hrs
Interesting how the lefty trolls come up with names that are exponentially more offensive than any of the current targets of the crackdown - and they think they’re being funny.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 2213 hrs
This is so childish, it’s perfect for the folks in Madison to really get their teeth into for about a year or two and really tie up the legislature. At least they won’t cause any damage.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 22, 2010 at 2321 hrs
I think that this is the solution:
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store.aspx?s=fightinwhite.111Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 23, 2010 at 1026 hrs
This whole thing got me to thinking what names/mascots are out there…..here are a sampling:
Montgomery, AL: Sidney Lanier - Poets
Bagdad, AZ - Sultans
Yuma, AZ - Criminals
Deer, AR - Antlers
Smackover, AR - Buckaroos
Los Angeles: Hollywood - Shieks
Los Angeles: John Marshall - Barristers
Los Angeles: Thomas Jefferson - Democrats (Can R. Reagan HS be far behind?)
Los Olivos, CA: Dunn HS - Earwigs
Aspen, CO - Skiers
Rocky Ford, CO - Meloneers
Avon, CT: Avon Old Farms - Winged Beavers
Kent, CT: Marvelwood School - Screaming Pterodactyls
Punta Gorda, FL: Charlotte - Fighting Tarpons (read carefully)
Tarpon Springs, FL - Spongers
Cairo, GA - Syrupmakers (pronounced KAYRO)
KaMakani, HI: Hawaii Prep - Gentle Breeze
Orofino, ID - Maniacs
Centralia, Il - Orphans / Orphan Annies
Fisher, Il - Bunnies
Effingham, Il - Flaming Hearts
Hoopeston. Il - Cornjerkers
New Berlin, Il - Pretzels
Polo, Il - Marcos
Frankfort, In - Hot Dogs
Northeast Dubois, In - Jeeps
Speedway, In - Sparkplugs
Shoals, In - Jug Rox
Vincennes, In: Lincoln - Alices
Allegany, MD: Campers
Baltimore, MD: Bryn Mawr - Mawrtians
Bessemer, MI - Speedboys/Speedgirls
Detroit. MI: Southeastern - Jungaleers
Goodrich, MI - Martians
Gwinn, MI - Modeltowners
Midland, MI - Chemics (home of Dow Chemical)
Mt. Clemens, MI - Battling Bathers
Unionville-Sebawing Area. MI - U.S.A Patriots
Zeeland. MI: East - Chix
Zeeland, MI: West - Dux
Aitkin. MN - Gobblers
Blooming Prairie. MN - Awesome Blossoms
Clarkton. MO - Reindeer
Hickman, MO - Kewpies
Maryville, MO - Spoofhounds
Carlsbad, NM - Cavemen
New York: Stuyvesant - Hitmen
New Philadelphia, OH - Fighting Quakers (???)
Williamsport, PA - Millionaires
Mitchell, SD - Kernels (Home of the Corn Palace)
BellBuckle, TN: The Webb School - Feet
Chattanooga, TN: Central - Purple Pounders
Mesquite, TX - Skeeters
Van, TX - Vandals
Manti, UT - Templars
Madeira, VA - Snails
Cardoza, DC - Clerks
Poca, WV - Dots That’s right; they are the: Poca Dots
Appleton, WI: West - Terrors
Bayfield, WI - Trollers
Cuba City, WI - Cubans
DeForest, WI - Norskies
Kimberly, WI - Papermakers
Laona, WI - Fighting Kellys
Monroe, WI - Cheesemakers
Nekoosa, WI - Papermakers
Oconomowoc, WI - Coons
Rhinelander, WI - HodagsPosted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 23, 2010 at 1126 hrs
“I just can’t take all this namby-pamby boo-hooing about the bloody Indians. You won. All right? You came in and you killed them and you took their land. That’s what conquering nations do. That’s what Caesar did, and he’s not going around saying, ‘I came, I conquered, I felt really bad about it.’ The history of the world is not people making friends. You had better weapons, and you massacred them. End of story.”
-Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 24, 2010 at 1002 hrs
Let’s just be done with this whole thing.
Government Approved Team A vs. Government Approved Team B
Before each game the coaches will be required to file reams and reams of paperwork that no one will look at and may file away some place.
Then a fee must be paid to some bureaucracy that will file even more paperwork but will actually do nothing for the money that they have taken but will threaten you with fines and/or prison for not paying them.
Then we get rid of all types of scoring mechanisms. It’s not fair to the children to keep score because someone could feel bad.
Besides, doesn’t sports cause people to breath heavier which causes them to exhale more carbon dioxide which contributes to global warming and makes their carbon footprint bigger?
Let’s just ban sports.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 24, 2010 at 1405 hrs
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