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Black President Card

Harvey seems adamant about this.

I hereby declare that the Black President card trumps any race card from now until the thermodynamic heat death of the universe.

Anyone attempting to prod my sense of White Guilt can kiss my exonerated ass.

Posted by Owen at 1756 hrs
Culture + Politics + Politics - General + Politics - Wisconsin

1. I was forced to steal that one.

   Posted by Cindy on November 05, 2008 at 1850 hrs




2. If there is no more racism, why did the Secret Service demand that he give his speech from behind bullet proof glass?  I think you know well enough that there are some real loonies out there, and race is just one of the reasons that some people hate him.

   Posted by capper on November 05, 2008 at 2101 hrs




3. Sorry capper, I disagree- lots of loonies around the world hated Bush-Cheney as well.  To become president, a majority of white voters elected Obama to the highest and most powerful position in the world, of which only 43 others have held the job previously.

   I agree with the original author- it’s the END of white guilt…

   FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST.  THANK GOD ALMIGHTY, I’M FREE AT LAST!

   Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 05, 2008 at 2115 hrs




4. Capper - You seem to ignore the BDS we’ve endured since 2000 (perhaps you suffer from it as well, which is why you don’t see it).  Tell you what - when movies are made depicting the assasination of Obama and are celebrated by the right (as similar films about Bush were by the left), then you can spout your nonsense. Until then, do us a favor and shut the hell up.

   Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 05, 2008 at 2346 hrs




5. Yeah Capper, where did you guys source those “He’s Not My President” bumper stickers?

   Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 06, 2008 at 0754 hrs




6. YEA!!!  The End of White Guilt is here!

   No longer do we have to hear how “THE MAN” is keeping anyone down!

   Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 06, 2008 at 1121 hrs




7. Awesome!

   This means after the next natural disaster no one will claim that the U.S. government blew up the levee’s, and when FEMA can’t give everyone a mansion and paycheck instantly people will know its not for lack of desire but rather lack of capability of government to give you everything.

   Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 06, 2008 at 1130 hrs




8. people will know its not for lack of desire but rather lack of capability of government to give you everything.

   Now that sounds like a plan.

   Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 06, 2008 at 1143 hrs




9. Exactly xxpilot!  We shouldn’t hear any more nonsense of “The president hates black people” from rappers anymore.

   I HAVE A DREAM…  that no longer African Americans will blame others or blame government for problems of their own making.

   Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 06, 2008 at 1300 hrs




10. I predict that Obama will once and for all show the worth of all people.  That realization will finally break down the last bits of prejudice in the US and that trying to give a leg up to a section of the population won’t be an issue.

    I also see that Obama is a story and not a statistic.  The story is that if you are exceptional smart and you have exceptional talents that you can become president.  But the statistic is that there is alcoholism, people that shouldn’t be parents and a correlation between the color or sex of an individual what they make in income.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 06, 2008 at 1353 hrs




11. I HAVE A DREAM… that no longer African Americans will blame others or blame government for problems of their own making.

    Yeah, I see a very good learning opportunity here for lots of people who think that the government is responsible for every issue in this country.

    With dems in control of both houses and the presidency with a black president, none-the-less, there should be NO excuses that anyone is keepin a brotha down (or anyone else except of course the people who have learned how to be successful)

    There can only be 2 outcomes.  Either people will realize that OH MY GOD, govenment is not at the steering wheel of our economy.  Able to be driven anywhere anytime anyplace at the whim of the legislators OR they’ll turn on Obama and claim he’s a turncoat, turned his back on minorites, blah blah blah.

    It will be one of the 2.

    Because NONE of Obama’s proposals are going to allow the economy to prosper if he gets them passed.  If he doesn’t get them passed, and the economy recovers on its own (which it will) the ‘poor disenfranchised’ who were waiting for Obama to fill their gas tanks and pay their mortgages will be in no better position than before.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 06, 2008 at 1436 hrs




12. I understand that cynicism is the watchword for all those disappointed by the election results, but another possibility is that a black president could use the bully pulpit and encourage more productive behavior - e.g. that a man has a responsibility to be there for his children. Compared with many of the so called “family values” candidates (Giulianni, McCain, Thompson), Obama apparently meant it the first time when he vowed ‘til death us do part.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 06, 2008 at 1712 hrs




13. http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_ causes_obsessive

    Posted by This Deserves It's Own Blog Post on November 06, 2008 at 1853 hrs




14. Now I know why Jesse Jackson was crying during the Obama election night win- soon he can no longer keep blaming whitey for the problems of African Americans!

    Can Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson please go away now? Obama will soon be in charge of the country.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 06, 2008 at 1933 hrs




15. but another possibility is that a black president could use the bully pulpit and encourage more productive behavior - e.g. that a man has a responsibility to be there for his children.

    Yeah, cause that’s worked real well for guys like Bill Cosby.

    Tonight on the news they had a segment about a kid who made the comment that after the election, he now thought that he could grow up to be president someday.

    I don’t know how pervasive that sentiment will be in the population in general, but I did think “well thats better I suppose than thinking you can grow up to be a rapper or an NBA player”.

    ...although my friend who teaches 3rd grade at MPS says most of the boys in her class have been very open about their aspirations to grow up to be drug dealers.  I’m sure they’ll outgrow that… 

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 06, 2008 at 2357 hrs




16. For those of you who believe xxpilot is exaggerating or lying, I subbed in MPS for 3 years.  Because I could ‘handle it’ I was given repeated assignments at Sholes Middle School.  I decided one gun and one knife in 2 years was enough. 

    The only way you can consider the 45% unemployment of black males between 19 and 25 statistic in MIlwaukee a fact is if you only count legal occupations.  Drug dealer is a vocation and most black males do not see it as their only choice or that they were forced in to it.  It is lucrative and prestigious and easy.  Positions are sought after and jobs are guarded jealously.  In addition, no taxes and a (here is what really makes them laugh in contempt) welfare check.  I speak of knowledge first hand.  Throw in burglary,pimping(also held in high esteem, but usually older men hold that position) and enforcing and you have quite a work force.  Every society has its underworld and despite the Italian Mafia movies and shows, they do not hold the majority in that world. 

    You wanna see real minority unemployment?  Legalize the lesser most popular drugs and prostitution like our enlightened European neighbors.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 07, 2008 at 0905 hrs




17. While the election of Barack Obama is certainly a milestone in the history of race relations in this country, let’s not pretend it’s some kind of panacea that’s going to erase centuries of hate and discrimination and their accumulated aftereffects.

    Nor is it automatic, as many assume, that the passage of time will result in a generation of younger people untouched by the malevolence of racism. Just this week, a University of Texas football player posted on his My Space page a message saying “get the hunters together, there’s a n***er in the White House.” To his credit, Mack Brown immediately threw him off the team, but this is proof positive that a single election is only a single step in a long and ongoing process. It’s not the end destination.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 07, 2008 at 0936 hrs




18. Perhaps apc, but a big step now has to come from the minority communities.  It is now the time to end (or severely cut down on) the incessant race card and blaming of the majority for past actions.  There are very few ‘less racist’ countries in the world than the US and the one way street of ‘apology and reparation’ has to become a two way street to take the next step.  I would argue this is the point in history for us to make that step.  The call has to come from the minorities and Obama is the man.  If the economy may have insoluble problems ahead, Obama does have a unique opportunity to reduce racial tensions and could(should?) be a real positive historical figure in that area.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 07, 2008 at 1000 hrs




19. TUERQAS, I can’t disagree with any of that, really. I’d point out that Obama has already been fairly vigorous in his calls for responsibility from the minority community. I’m glad to see you add “severely cut down on,” because sometimes race still does in fact enter the picture when it shouldn’t, and the race card (a term I despise, by the way) occasionally needs to be played, so that blatant racism can be pointed out and rooted out.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 07, 2008 at 1027 hrs




20. For those of you who believe xxpilot is exaggerating or lying, I subbed in MPS for 3 years.  Because I could ‘handle it’ I was given repeated assignments at Sholes Middle School.

    For the record I’d never make stuff or misrepresent facts on here. I know I have some philosophies and opinions that many wouldn’t agree with, but they are not represented as fact in that regard.  I would have named the school also but that would of course narrow down who the teacher was, and she needs her job and I presume would prefer her annonymity.  Anyway.. as I said, just for the record…  I’m interested in people addressing problems that really exist, and there would be no point in misrepresenting facts. It would be counterproductive.

    because sometimes race still does in fact enter the picture when it shouldn’t, and the race card (a term I despise, by the way) occasionally needs to be played, so that blatant racism can be pointed out and rooted out.

    There’s always gonna be individuals here or there that don’t like someone or something.

    People don’t like other people for a lot of reasons.  And quite frankly, most of those proclivities probably perpetuated themselves from a root based legitimate justification.  Its time to stop framing the debate around anecdotes and instead around reality.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 07, 2008 at 1059 hrs




21. Its time to stop framing the debate around anecdotes and instead around reality.

    Hear hear.

    The problem is the majority of American’s don’t have a clue about what that reality is.  My wife taught at a charter school in the inner city.  All her anecdotal stories about kids breaking teacher’s ankles, having sex in the stair wells, breaking teacher’s fingers and parents dropping off their kids high as hell don’t give you a sense of the reality of an entrenched poverty cycle and dysfunctional schools.  Getting the whole picture takes a long view.

    The government should buy the rights to HBO’s “The Wire” and start “The Wire Channel”.  It could just play a looped episode of the wire 24 hours a day for a week.  The next week play the next episode.  “The Wire” is a masterwork in depicting the problems and reality of America’s inner city.  Everyone in America should watch it.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 07, 2008 at 1139 hrs




22. apc, I have heard his calls for responsibility as well.  I hope it was not campaign rhetoric and believe that positive change on this front could fast track during his Presidency.  He will have to earn my trust on the economic and foreign policy front, but I am willing to extend trust on this topic.  I really do have hope that he will try to reduce racial problems. 

    xx, I didn’t mean anything negative from your earlier comment and would hope you would protect that source.  I can be open about the hells we call ‘Middle School’ in Milwaukee county because I was there and I no longer ever look to do that job again.  I would rather clean sewers than teach at most MPS Middle schools.  I never taught at a grade school and by High School age the worst have already dropped out or have accepted that it is easier to follow the most basic rules of no weapons or serious violence at school (at least against teachers).

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 07, 2008 at 1312 hrs




23. xx, I didn’t mean anything negative from your earlier comment and would hope you would protect that source.

    I didn’t take it as pejorative.  No worries.

    Your comment just got me wondering what people assume.

    I just feel very strongly that making stuff up wouldn’t serve anyones purpose, mine or anyone elses, so I hope I have (or do) establish a reputation on here as I have in life that some people may not subscribe to my “radical” ideas and philosophy, but I don’t make things up or stretch the truth to try to make a point.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 07, 2008 at 1423 hrs




24. It is a truly sad thing that I don’t have to exaggerate on my experiences in substitute teaching.  Change in philosopy is needed at MPS and as long as the mantra ‘more money will fix things’ is the position of the establishment, hope is pointless and change is not going to happen.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 07, 2008 at 1448 hrs




25. Just as it took a conservative (Nixon, for you children out there) to establish relationships with China, it will take a liberal to break the cycle of dependency on government handouts. Do not underestimate the power of the presidency in influencing national behavior. I would hope that the loyal opposition gives Obama a chance to prove that he is more than just a smooth talker.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 07, 2008 at 1538 hrs




26. FWIW, Obama did not win a majority of white votes. He did better among whites than any Democrat since Carter, however.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 07, 2008 at 1559 hrs




27. Steve-O, Quite honestly, who cares?

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 07, 2008 at 1600 hrs




28. FWIW, Obama did not win a majority of white votes. He did better among whites than any Democrat since Carter, however.

    If Alan Keyes was on the republican ticket and Hillary was on the Dem, I bet my life Keyes would have gotten the vast majority of the white vote.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on November 07, 2008 at 1734 hrs

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