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0814, 13 Feb 17

UW Officials Balk at Free Speech on Campus

Heh.

The proposed companion budget bill elaborates, stating among other things, that:

  • The UW Board of Regents and each college campus “shall guarantee all members of the system’s community the broadest possible latitude to speak, write, listen, challenge and learn.”
  • “It is not the proper role of the board or any institution or college campus to attempt to shield individuals from ideas and opinions they find unwelcome, disagreeable, or even deeply offensive.”
  • Members of the system’s community are free to criticize and contest views expressed on campus and “speakers who are invited to express their views, (but) they may not obstruct or otherwise interfere with the freedom of others to express views they reject or even loathe.”
  • “The board and each institution and college campus has a responsibility not only to promote a lively and fearless freedom of debate and deliberation, but also to protect that freedom when others attempt to restrict it.”

Walker’s proposal is raising concern among some members of the UW-Madison campus community that it might, in fact, stifle speech.

Perhaps if UW officials actually respected and protected free speech on campus today, such requirements would not be necessary.

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0814, 13 February 2017

28 Comments

  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    Leftist bullies are never going to agree with that.

    Stop worrying about them and just pass it.

    This would have been nice when I was at UW and the administration hauled me in front of several anti-free speech administrative tribunals.   (I was violated just by being haule in front of them!)

    The anti-speech tyrants at UW need to be reigned in.

  2. billphoto

    I got my deplorable badge at UW-Platteville.  Waiting for my son and smoking a cigar, I was approached by a young lady that announced she was offended by me.  Not the cigar, my NRA hat.  Told her to call campus police, which she did.  By the time the police showed up, we had finished packing my truck.  Politely told the officer if he had a problem with my hat to arrest me and drove away.

    Guess UW-Platteville Bias Incident Team was off duty.  http://www.bootsandsabers.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_mail.gif

  3. kjanz1899

    Nothing proposed here would prevent peaceful assembly.

  4. Kevin Scheunemann

    Bill,

    That story would be funny if it was not so sad. Why didn’t the delicate liberal snowflake get a ticket for making a false police complaint?

  5. Le Roi du Nord

    What is a “false police complaint”.  Think about what you said, and what the role of the police officer is in that situation. People, and you are no exception, complain all the time.  It is the police officers role sort it all out.  I would wager to say that crabby and intolerant “conservatives” are responsible for a lot of “false police complaints”.

  6. billphoto

    Off topic as usual … and it is unnecessary to call me crabby and intolerant or claiming I am responsible for false police complaints.  I’m not.

    On topic. Yes, Kevin raises a good question and I have no idea what was said to the campus police.  We had a very brief conversation.  I do know UW-Platteville does have a group called the Bias Incident Team.  Except for that silliness with the Halloween costumes that was in the paper, nobody I spoke with on campus even knew what the group was or how to file a complaint.  My opinion, which I am entitled to despite the name calling and false accusations, is this is a small group of students and faculty trying to force their values onto the majority.

    Sadly, this is just one example of what is happening everywhere today.  Sometimes those requests should be embraced such as referring to low information voters as “libetards.”  That’s not nice.  BE RESPECTFUL.  Other times, who cares?  If a person prefers to be called a “liberal thinker” or a “wing nut,” why should I care.  Again, it is a matter of courtesy.  It is when these demands become outrageous and attempt to define how someone else lives, they go to far.  A Bias Incident Team may be a great resource to address someone painting swatikas on school property but going after 3 college ladies because their 3 blind mice Halloween costumes were offensive to blind people is beyond petty and borders on dangerous.

    Owen’s post illustrates the hypocrisy of a UW administration that says one thing but does another.  You cannot be partially pregnant.

  7. penquin

    Did I offend?

  8. penquin

    Obviously, your board – your rules. But I am curious to know what it was that brought about the ban-hammer.

  9. Kevin Scheunemann

    “Bias incident Team” is liberal name for “Thought Police”.

    I’ve saw a version of this at UW-milwaukee. It looks so dangerous to free expression and thought now that total defunding UW system seems like only solution.

  10. Paul

    I would wager all off-topic issues on this site would be resolved by banning Le Roi du Nord.

  11. billphoto

    Meaning no disrespect to Mr. Nord or others, I would disagree.  I can sometimes glean some bit of useful information from all the posturing.  I even watch ABC news in the morning (although it does become difficult to keep breakfast down sometimes) just to hear what they have to say.

    On a lighter note, I design websites.  My passion is making designs accessible – the blind spend over $3 billion annually on goods and services.  Typically my day can go from boring to insanely frustrating when a software design does not work as planned.  Looking for a break, I seek humor and I have to give Mr. Nord credit for a chuckle.  Of course, Pelosi, Waters, Baldwin are just a few other contributors.  I would guess Mr. Nord would be flattered to be included with this elite group.

    So I can see value, abeit it somewhat limited, to Mr. Nord’s ongoing diatribe.

    http://www.bmwd.website/images/conservative-memes.png

    And thanks again for the chuckle – no matter how far off topic it is.

  12. Le Roi du Nord

    That is hysterically funny, but also sad.  You are all here bad mouthing UW for perceived free speech issues, yet want to ban my free speech.

    The reason I read this blog is to get an idea how others that may have a differing opinion view the world and society in general.  Like billphoto I can sometimes pick up a tidbit of insight that sets my heart a-twitter. A good example is from Paul (see above) who is all for banning free speech if it doesn’t agree with him.  What did I learn, you ask ? That folks of all stripes and beliefs can be just as intolerant as any other group.  Thanks for todays educational tidbit.

  13. Kevin Scheunemann

    Like that last diatribe…it gives insight that he is not really conservative, despite his claim he is.

    It is mildly interesting, someone who is in deep denial about his very liberal positions.

     

  14. Le Roi du Nord

    Sure, kevin is always right.  Even when he isn’t.  A legend in his own mind..

  15. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Even on that comment, I can dismiss the sarcasm (in my mind of course) and view it as a compliment…:-)

     

  16. Paul

    A good example is from Paul (see above) who is all for banning free speech if it doesn’t agree with him.  

    Nobody said anything of the sort.

    Then again, you’ve singlehandedly destroyed this site.  Maybe it would be best if you left for good.

  17. Jason

    >The reason I read this blog is to get an idea how others that may have a differing opinion view the world and society in general.

    I would wager a dollar that this is absolute bs. I haven’t seen a single.post of yours that is not snide, condescending, or argumentative. You’re a last word freak who seems to be here just to stir up trouble. If you wrote better and we’re able to intelligently discuss things I would accuse you of being Scott Feldstein’s sock puppet.

  18. Le Roi du Nord

    “I would wager all off-topic issues on this site would be resolved by banning Le Roi du Nord”.        How soon we forget…

    If you want to call me out for dispelling  kevin’s BS, go right ahead.  That’s what I’m getting at, it’s OK for kevin to spew forth one nonsensical claim after another, but it isn’t when I call him on it.    So many hypocrites, so little time.

     

  19. Paul

    It’s time for you to leave.  You’re done here.

  20. Le Roi du Nord

    I guess that isn’t for you to decide…

  21. Paul

    Oh, but it is.  I’ve taken down bigger trolls.

    Given you share a moniker with a known White Nationalist while being a pissant village bureaucrat and congenital liar…I’d pipe down, bub.

  22. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Still waiting for a specific example if a “nonsensical” claim.

    You have only ever come up with imagined claims from your big government biases.

    So you may want to clarify your comment.

  23. Le Roi du Nord

    paul:

    Even though you said nothing factual, go for it.  Getting me banned just proves the point that folks of all stripes can be just as intolerant as any other.  Go for the gusto, snowflake.

    kevin:

    Any claim you made about “snakes” was nonsense, as was the “massive 3 mile wetland remediation”.  Add to that your confusion about how spring elections are held, and saying the pope isn’t a christian.    Need I say more?

  24. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    There is 1.5 miles of wetland on each side of Highway.   Thought you would have figured that out by now…

    You have refused the invitation to meet with fellow community leaders in Kewaskum who will tell you all about the snake issue.   Can’t help it if you are scared of the truth.   Free meal included, as my guest.

    I had no confusion about spring elections, only you were confused when you tortured what I said about it.

    I also said if the pope rejects the gospel of salvation by grace of Christ, then he rejects his Christianity. (specifically, he claims earning the merit of grace in other things besides Christ’s unmerited grace)  he has made a few statements where that is a big concern.

    Can you try harder to find something specific to your accusations?  Hardly meets your burden of proof you demand from others.

     

  25. Le Roi du Nord

    kevin:

    That’s not what you originally claimed.  You said there was a “massive 3 mile wetland remediation” on the west side of the road.  A quick look at the on-line wetland map would show that your statement is false.  That same map would also show that those wetlands on both sides of the high were there pre-USH 45.  So in effect you are blaming the glaciers for this “massive” wetland.

    Yup, you were confused about the spring elections, no doubt about that.  And I am sure there are millions of roman catholics around the world that would take you to task on that pompous claim.  Odd that the things you are so sure of you can’t prove.

  26. Kevin Scheunemann

    oh, Nord,

    There was remidiation on east side, but it was not as massive.   The massive remidiation on West side was specific for the snake!    Try to get with the program.  Just because you deny the waste of taxpayer dollars does not cancel out the facts of the spending problem, which is clear you aide and abet.

    I’ll debate any Roman Catholic anytime.   I’m hoping they can prove me wrong about the Pope.    I will call out any Christian preaching a gospel where merit can be earned outside Christ’s unmerited grace.  It is clear the Pope preaches a gospel outside Christ’s unmerited grace.

    Is that all you got for such a broad side attack?   That was fairly weak.

  27. Le Roi du Nord

    Nope, I have no rebuttal for intentional ignorance.  Nor for you constantly moving target.  Have the last word.   Try and make it have some aura of truthiness.

  28. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Then come meet my Kiwanis Club, free dinner, they will tell you about DOT presentation which left us all incredulous that Doyle wasted so much money on this road project over one snake.

    I don’t think you have the courage to call us all “ignorant” to our face.  In fact, I know you don’t.

    Free dinner and a chance to insult good community volunteers who know the truth…how can you pass that up?

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